My trip to the Clyde resulted in a complete rebuild of Retired but Active, away went Frontpage and in came CSS. Kevin worked round the clock to remake some of the of the original stuff whilst i worked on new copy to widen the scope of the site.

But the basic problem of giving members real access remained. The only way we could do that involved asking for e-mails, then cutting and pasting. Kevin realised that this involved more work than seemed reasonable for someone who had a living to earn as well and dropped out.

Yet another rewrite and back to frontpage but in the meantime I had discovered Drupal.

Now drupal is an open-source (ie free)package that structures a community site and, most importaintly sits on the internet server where everyone who logs into the site can use it.

So much for the upside. The downside is that to set it up - as compared to use it - you need a smattering of HTML and CSS.

So to Amazon for books, and to the hard process of learning from scratch - me not you.<